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Saturday, December 10, 2016

The Fascination of Anonymous Male-Male Sex: Gloryhole action



The Power of the Glory Hole: Part I

"I sucked my first cock through a gloryhole, sunbuns!" 
(Matt37)
I had a fake ID and used to go in a porno video shop with cubicles at age 17. It was a thrill to watch the videos and JO, stick my cock thru the hole and get sucked. So intense. (Taddy7)

I got my first blowjob through a GH 'gloryhole), which was my first sexual experience. Still love it to this day, although the places to find them (other than sex clubs) are very few and far between. (MRMATTX2)

Not all of the experiences and opinions are favorable though.

A friend of mine put his cock thru' a glory hole, waiting to get sucked and, instead, the door burst open and the guy flashed a police badge at him. So apart from diseases and unclean dudes, there's also the danger of getting sprung by the law. And what about the queer bashers? Nope, there are too many negatives in my book!!! (Lambada)

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It's pretty amazing how many guys have actually said that their first 'gay' sex was
anonymous. Of course, many boys and men grow up experiencing some kind of sexual exploration with other boys - something that - maybe -most boys do, but that's not the purpose of this blog entry. Maybe another one later.

Part of this blog entry is based on some forum discussion at JUB and other sites. 

That was also my own first 'real' gay (M2M) sexual encounter:

First suck...first sex.. yeah, that was it for me, too. It wasn't a gloryhole but I sucked my first cock at 19 under a stall in the men's room of the university library. I never saw who it was - just his shoes. I was nervous but excited as hell. He sucked me first and then I did him -- he came so quickly but was polite enough to ask if I could take it - I mumbled something with a mouthful of dick, which he took for a 'yes'. Since my first sex was with an anonymous male, doing it like that has held a fascination ever since. It's probably very different for young gays who've grown up more recently. (sunbuns99 )
I guess I've got a fetish (or at least am fascinated) with the idea of gloryholes). 
Is there anybody else? I've put some my pics on a Flickr group - it's way for to pool everybody's collection but still retain the pics as your 'own'. 
You may need to sign up for the group (and to Flickr, of course) to see them. 

Under Stall Action/Gloryhole (you'll only see the few public pics until you sign up/join the group)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/45957610@N00/


Below is a RECAP some previous posts on JUB Forum and other related discussion threads here and elsewhere:  

Are there any ways to find public glory holes in your area?


You can also find possible gloryholes at http://www.cruisingforsex.com

Look in the LISTINGs section, search by location (city/country).
The info is not always up-to-date because such places have a tendency to come (cum) and go! I mean.. the situation and circumstances change -- sometimes overnight... but then a good hole is hard to find but also hard to
lose.

Adult bookstores are just the right place to enjoy porn and blow job at glory hole. Gay bathhouses have glory holes for added pleasure

Try craigslist.com in your town to find gloryholes and cruising spots. For another source: http://members.lycos.co.uk/rux/gh.html
Great for finding gloryholes: 
http://www.squirt.org !

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In a recent posting on another discussion board, the topic of glory holes came up. It's seem I am far from the only person who intrigued, fascinated and somewhat obsessed with the form of invasively impersonal (well - intimate is not quite the right word) and anonymous gay (male-male) sex. I add the m2m (male-to-male) because there are many men (and quite a few women) who don't identify with being gay, but who enjoy participating in glory hole, under stall, and public toilet cruising for sex with strangers. It's called 'cottaging' in Commonwealth English. 

Neovirgin wrote: Not too sure where to put this ..... have any of you ever taken candid pics of guys' cocks that have been pushed through gloryholes in a public toilet? In other words, pics of their cocks without their knowing it? If you have, I would love to see the pics! The closest I have seen is what appears to be a genuine candid video of one guy wanking another one under a toilet partition until he cums. 

I wrote back to him but ended up adding more than he expected. 

Funny, that's often the very thing that happens in real glory hole and under stall situations. 
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Nordicboy (-- also a DickFlash member/poster) has collected some of those on his own blog from Xtube and elsewhere. 
He's posted the link on DF before, but there are definitely some vids there about anonymous dicks sticking thru glory holes (apparently real - not staged porn). 

http://nordicboy.blogspot.com 
http://www.xtube.com
http://www.pornotube.com

It would be VERY hard (smile) to actually get away with videotaping such things.. most g-hole are too dark and not many people except sort of hard core flashers are going sit there and willing let a complete stranger video or photograph them erect and cumming thru a g-hole. -- so unless the other guy is aware of what you're doing, it's not actually REAL true flash -- it's just amateur porn, then. 
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Another person responded with something I found quite amazing and so, I was doubtful, and responded his point that he'd actually videotaped at glory holes.

Growler: I have videoed this and other types of voyeurism for years. Yes, it's amateur porn but then so is videoing someone flashing. When you stick your dick under a partition or through a hole you usually don't see what the other person is doing or who it even is. That's why it's anonymous sex. 

What I was referring too what was requested in the ORIGINAL post (quoted above) written by neovirgin. He was looking for genuine candid video and pics of "guys' cocks that have been pushed through gloryholes in a public toilet" - where they don't know it. That's what I was saying - It is rather difficult to find them on the net -EXCEPT in some kind of amateur porn (uploaded to video/pic sharing sites). 

Flickr Group: Under Stall Action/Gloryhole
http://www.flickr.com/groups/45957610@N00/
If it becomes a private group (leave a message and I'll send you an invitation).
http://www.flickr.com/profile/sunbuns
Note: You can a free Flickr account or just use a Yahoo id.

To Growler
From my own experience ---from both side of the glory hole - most times both guys know what/who (at least they know it's

somebody they want to suck or be sucked by) and why they want their cocks through a glory hole.
If you don't take a least a peek to see who's there and if they're showing interest, you might just pull back with a bloody stub. ... we're talking public toilet glory holes - not backroom bars or gay sauna/baths were you CAN expect with 99% accuracy that your dick's going to be swallowed with appreciation and with great gusto.

 I still have a hard time imaging that you take a video camera in the men's room at Home Depot or some state Hwy roadside restroom and shoot pics of stranger's dicks thru g-holes. Damn, it's even hard to find them these days.
I couldn't and wouldn't dare try to get away with using a cellphone cam/vid without the other person knowing or encouraging me first. Way too risky for me.. Most bathhouse and saunas now prohibit photography or cell phone. The one in Waikiki will NOT even allow bags or backpacks AT ALL., and San Jose's Water Garden checks all bags (for liquor and camers/vidcams). Somewhere I went had me check my cell phone with my other valuables - shutting it down first.

Not to cause a needless argument about this - NEOVIRGIN - don't bother looking for pics - go find yourself a busy glory hole and enjoy the view. 

would like to see a few of yours , Growler- and NOT just to prove your point.


Great stuff.. You've got more guts (and probably bigger balls) than I do - taking those. Would love to hear some of your stories - about taking them. I am sorry there are cheats and liars (people who steal pics and videotapes) who republish - but if someone you know or you are in them, you DO have legal recourse (hardly worth unless he's making a bundle).

I guess I've only partly learned my lesson. But I never pass up a good glory hole - love to give and get it - from both ends (safe way.. (not BB) of course). I just hope some places don't have hidden micro-cameras - I'd have to be shown on 60 Minutes some day! LOL

Some dickflashers and guys who like to frequent glory holes and who look for public m2m sex are NOT gay (meaning they don't see themselves as queer and don't want to identify with being a gay person or lifestyle -- I realize that -- but one perv can't call another a BIGGER pervert -- unless...he IS small(er) and not many will admit that. LOL. 




Baggy Pants and Innocence Lost


When guys' butt and ass cracks are showing it true that the sight is hot or 'cool' -but - at the same  time -- I always just have to believe they are doing so completely innocently that is kind of mindless, without consciousness and so it NOT exact sexy.
 Because for me, just showing some butt or your crack is something you're likely to see on almost anybody - toddlers, school children, overweight people reaching up or bending over at Walmart, old people, athletes in action or just warming up, as somebody climb into a busy and just about everywhere and while people are doing most anything.
 There are times and cases when this is NOT true so it's when we can accidentally see up the front of
guys who typically are wearing baggy pants/shorts (and may also be freeballing (going commando) is when I sit up and take notice and get turned on. Women are obviously NOT going to find it easy to accidentally flash their twats - unless they sort of make a bigger and more obvious show of spreading their skirts .. anyway, by all appearances and by most everybody's admission, women don't see to be as visually stimulated or find looking at body parts as erotic as men do -- not to be too sexist.

 [ The photo of the guy on the right  in the khaki pants with the fly completely open to expose his freeballing is another one of this blog's author.]

 Back to the idea and actual experience of seeing up a guy' s short.... However, when you can see a guy's cock clearly outlined -- the head, corona ridge and all - you just got to know HE knows what's showing and he doesn't give a damn or more likely, he's happy to give others (perhaps especially other guys) a peek at his goodies.

 

Likewise seeing a guy's cock from a view up the leg his baggy shorts, somehow just really gets me excited to the core -- because I just KNOW he can't really be that naive and innocent about it. I mean - he decided what to wear and what NOT to wear -- I'm all for freeballing -- obviously but I know that my eyes zero in on a live target and his floppy cock or sweaty balls are a hell of a lot more appealing than a hairy butt crack (no offense to those who are and to those who do like to show crack). But this is freeballing -- after all. It's what up front that counts -- or should I is what 'cunts'. P.S. I know that most of these types of photo are just 'posed' but there are times when you get a look up some buddy or total stranger's shorts.

 When I was a teen, my day had a young college age guy who worked for him on subcontractor jobs
(painting, building on house additions, etc). He wore cut-off jeans a lot and was really handsome and also took a friendly interest in me (although I was much younger -- I guess he wanted his boss (my dad) to think he was a nice guy but he could have been so friendly for 'other' reasons - that he was always in my day-dreams and later by fantasies -after the time I saw him up on a ladder with his tight bubble butt and hairy legs. Believe you me.. I was hanging around at my dad's job whenever I got the chance (which was not much because I was in school). The guy in this first pic definitely seems to be authentic and his freeballing seems totally innocent or at least he doesn't seem to be aware that his uncut meat is exposed.

 Does anybody else find this type (above) of 'realistic photo' of a real person appealing? I won't say that it is ONLY sexually appealing because it really is NOT just that.
In the second photo below the guy (in red shorts) is really hot, but the pic seems totally contrived. It is probably an early pic in a series where this guy eventually does a solo jerk off - that really doesn't do much for me.

  [ The photo of the guy in the mesh black shorts on the left is one of this blog's author.]

Maybe I am getting jaded in my 'old age' and maybe the lost innocence on the first guy's face (and dick) just remind me of what I once had ... I am NOT talking about foreskin.-- but that sense of being innocent and exploring the mystery of your burgeoning feels and maybe your bulging shorts when you think about someone (or somethings... ) and then losing one's innocence, and also the joys and stumbling in learning to know yourself like most all of us went through (mostly in our adolescence -- where it concerned our sexually maturity and the changes in physical body and attraction to other people (str8, gay or bi - as the case may be).

Saturday, December 3, 2016

Traveling to Tokyo: Enjoying Japanese Men


What to do on a short trip to Tokyo
Wesley wrote recently: "I will be traveling to Tokyo in May and would love to get some helpful tibits about the city for a gay man traveling alone. I will be there only for five days. What hotels do you suggest, bars/clubs, restaurants, must see sites, etc."

My response is below.
You can start with this list of links -- some other are available from Cruisingforsex.com http://www.cruisingforsex.com

Then try to meet up with someone there before you go - to show you around and help you navigate. There are sites like: Gay Network Japan http://gnj.jp

I have not covered it all and probably cannot do the city justice - -but here is a start:

http://listings.cruisingforsex.com/cfs/index.php

If the URL does not work, then go to http://www.cruisingforsex.com/ Enter the site and then look for Sex Listings (then choose Metro Area Other Areas, Japan, Tokyo.)


Tokyo Visitors Bureau home page. http://www.tcvb.or.jp/en/index_en.htm

Tokyo Tourism Info http://www.tourism.metro.tokyo.jp/english/menu_siru.html


Gay Baths, Gay cruising spots (see CFS link above for more)

My favorite gay baths in Tokyo is 24-Kaikan in Shinjuku (between Shinjuku 3-chome and Shinjuku Gyoen-mae subway stations. (probably different than what I wrote about in 2003).
Actually, there are 4 different locations for this sauna (gay baths). The Shinjuku 2 chome branch is the nicest one and there are plenty of different types of guys (younger than some of the others) and also foreigners too.

24 Kaikan Bathhouse, Shinjuku 2-13-1, Tokyo. 3354-2424. Bathhouse with full facilities. Open 24 hours.
http://www.juno.dti.ne.jp/~kazuo24/english/english.htm

(There is also a 24-Kaikan Bathhouse (gay sauna) at Asakusa - just behind the Asakusa Kannon Temple grounds.
Sanja Matsuri (Asakusa Temple Festival - May 19-21 or thereabouts)
This temple has one of the largest festivals in Tokyo -- this year on May 19-21 - begins on the temple grounds on Friday and then the floats are carried by men (almost nude in fundoshi (loincloths) through the streets of the neighboring communities until the 100 floats are paraded (hoisted in rhythm thrusts -- exotic and erotic too) back to the Temple on Sunday afternoon. It is a good chance to see a lot of sweaty Japanese men (some like the photos here) - they (and the spectators) like to get drunk too so you're sure to see some pranks, some naked butts and male bonding during the festivities. Great photo opp too.

Shinjuku 24-Kaikan (baths) It seems that there is no map on the English site to the Shinjuku
http://www.juno.dti.ne.jp/~kazuo24/map/map-shinjyuku.htm
Located just off of Shinjuku Dori (turn left just at Lawson's in Shinujuku 2-chome,
2-chome is about a 10-minute walk, go right out of Shinjuku JR Staion East (a main street level exit) and you will be on Shinjuku Dori. Follow passed Mitsukoshi and Marui Department Stores on your right and Isetan Dept Store on your left. Keep going passed two main intersection (one is Meiji-dori) and look for Lawson's on your left, turn left toward Shinjuku Park, 24-Kaikan is down on the left, at the second intersection (steps lead up to 2F entrance (entrance is visible from the street), car park is on ground floor.

A comment from CFS:
This is a wonderful place and not intimidating for gaijin. The sauna is easy to find, as it's near the Buddhist temple in Two-chome and not far from the Shinjuku garden. On maps you can see the inverted swastika for the Buddhist temple, and just remember that the Buddha is looking over the buildings at the sauna. Go up the outside stairs. Upon entry have a ten yen coin ready. You will take off your shoes at the top of the stairs, put in your ten yen, and take the key. Then to your left will be a ticket machine. Put in bills or coins for 2600 yen if you just want a locker and press the lit-up 2600 yen button. A ticket and change will come out. Take the ticket and your shoe locker key to the attendant who will take those from you and give you a new clothes locker key and a bag with two towels and a robe. They ask you for your name but don't check ID.
Bring condoms if you engage in hot sex. I was surprised that two Japanese guys wanted to engage in unprotected sex with me. You can have a lot of fun here - several levels - bath at the faucets before getting into the hot baths, sauna and dark rooms (very clean), also dry, wet and steam saunas. Enjoy safely.
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About sightseeing in Tokyo -- any good guidebook or LonelyPlanet (online site) will have a list of the main sightseeing spots. I have included a few of the most famous ones here.

Asakusa Temple
Asakusa (old town with quaint shops, canals) - You can take a boat (passenger boat-bus) down the Sumida River (near the Asakusa Kannon Temple (largest in Tokyo) - get off at Takeshisanbashi, you can take boat-bus (a ferry) to Odaiba (manmade beach or also take the Yurikamome Train across the Tokyo Rainbow Bridge to Odaiba Marine Park (Fuji TV Station HQ is an interesting building to explore)
Shopping in Akihabara -- electronics town
Shinjuku - kind of metro 'center' but also not far from the 'gay' section - Shinjuku 2-chome (in fact you'll pass 2-chome Street a block before Lawson's (24H convenience store) on Shinjuku-dori.
By the way, a great out-of-town trip is Nikko -- there is a train from Asakusa Station (slower but less expensive than a bullet train (shinkansen). If you have a full day to spend for a day-trip out of Tokyo - -I recommend Nikko or if you might take a bus/guided tour of a hot springs resort (Hakone - out towards Mt. Fuji is one of the most popular) and you can do it in a day - but don't expect to get laid - although you may get to bathe (nude or semi-nude) with a group of men (probably older Japanese and curious foreigners).

Kabuki Theatre is a fun experience -- you can buy ticket for short performances and rent a English-narration player to help you enjoy. Full performances last hours and cost a lot, but there are short session performances (last 30-45 minutes) costing $8-10. Shows runs from 11:00am -9:00pm -- so it's a great way to squeeze in some culture between meals, sightseeing and cruising the baths .


Kabuki-za is located in Ginza and there is an English website: ttp://www.shochiku.co.jp/play/kabukiza/theater/

Meiji Shrine (near Harajuku Station (2 stops from Shinjuku on JR Yamate Line (Green Circular line) is a nice place for outdoor stroll in the gardens. Next door is Yoyogi Park -- where some cruising goes on .
Hibiya Park between Yurakucho (JR Yamate) Hibiya/Ginza stations (subway) and also Kasumigaseki Station (subway) is pretty cruisy -- especially the toilet just near the corner of th park - not far from the Imperial Hotel.

The Imperial Palace and the stroll around the moat can be nice. (not far from Hibiya Park a 10 walk)


It is too hard to tell you where to eat -- you almost can't go wrong because you can usually check out the menu (realistic plastic dishes and prices are displayed in the shop window or the menu (with pics) is posted. No tipping is needed in Japan.

However, be aware that in the gay section (or some 'gangster' type places) if there is no menu and no prices, ask before ordering. It is pretty rare nowadays but not completely unheard of being asked to pay 5 or more times the price for a glass of beer or some simple appetizers (if some shady -- backroom- establishments).


Lunch - by far - is your best for getting more for your money -- typically the same item ordered at night cost 1.5-3 times more (except at family-type restaurants / fastfood). Many places have lunch specials so I recommend eating well at lunch and then going light at night -- except when you want to splurge.

Well... hope this helps. If you have specific questions, I may be able to answer them.

By the way, I don't think it matters that you are African-American -- it some ways it may be as attractive to Japanese men as any other kind of foreigner. Japanese are respectful and polite -- but don't take their shyness or backwards for something it is not (although you are probably all too aware that ignorance can show its ugly face in almost every society). Prejudice is no more prevalent in Japan than other places and in fact may actually be less -- Japanese tend to be less assertive and easily intimidated so foreigners and visitors may sometimes mistake their timidity for an attitude that is not really there.

Have fun and I know you will enjoy the visit.